Deconstructing a Media Matters Post
Suze issued the challenge and I'm taking it. I am posting this as a new post because I need the full-text editing features. So let's start:
On the June 28 edition of NBC's Today, guest host and NBC News chief White House correspondent David Gregory uncritically repeated the false claim made by right-wing pundit Ann Coulter on the June 26 edition of MSNBC's Hardball that Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards received "big money to speak in front of a poverty group." Gregory used the claim during an interview with Edwards' wife, Elizabeth, to argue: "If you strip away some of the inflammatory rhetoric [by Coulter] against your husband and other Democrats, the point she's trying to make about your husband ... is in effect that he's disingenuous, especially on the signature issue of poverty, whether it's a $400 haircut or taking big money to speak in front of a poverty group." Gregory asked, "[I]s that a real point of vulnerability that you have to deal with in this campaign?"
What's wrong here? Gregory is asking a question, as a journalist, about the effect of what Coulter says and he paraphrases her. What's he supposed to do, say "What are the effects of what that woman said?" He's not supposed to editorialize.
And what's with the stilted, Pravda-esque phrasing, "uncritically repeated the false claim". If MM takes itself seriously, why use the hyperbole? It destroys the objectivity of their claim.
Let's continue. I'm having fun here. The next paragraph is truly a theater of the absurd:
However, as Media Matters for America noted, in claiming that Edwards "charge[d] a poverty group $50,000 for a speech," Coulter appeared to be distorting the earlier disclosure that Edwards received $55,000 for a January 2006 speech at the University of California-Davis. While Edwards reportedly "chose to speak on 'Poverty, the great moral issue facing America,' " there is no evidence that he was speaking to a "poverty group" at the university. Furthermore, as Media Matters documented at the time, the widely repeated claim that Edwards "charged" UC-Davis for the speech ignored the fact that there was an admission fee to the event, which, combined with sponsorships, offset Edwards' speaking fee, according to his campaign.
MM is right that he wasn't speaking to a poverty group, apparently his speech was part of a Distinguished Speakers program sponsored by Western Health Advantage. But it's really funny that they're critical of Coulter's claim of $50,000 when it was actually $5,000 higher.
And I'm reasonably sure they are essentially correct about where that $55,000 came from, why use "charged" in quotations. $55,000 was charged for the affair. That's not a lie - it's the damn truth.
So, to conclude:
Gregory uses a legitimate interviewing technique as a reporter. MM goes insane because Coulter makes an off-hand comment that was, in important particulars, was pretty close to the truth. The important takeaways are that Edwards charges (or is offered) a helluva lot of money to speak at a college and gets $400 haircuts. These are legitimate things to question for a journalist.
So MM tries to paint the scoreboard as Coulter - Bad, Gregory - Bad, Mrs. Edwards - No Opinion, John Edwards - Good.
The true scorecard is Coulter - Bad, Gregory - Doing His Job, Mrs. Edwards - No Opinion, John Edwards - Questionable.
And that, dear friends, is propaganda.
8 comments:
No, Gonz, the claim wasn't that he charged 50K to speak as part of a Distinguished Speakers series, it was that he charged 50K to speak to a poverty group. Your handwaving doesn't change this.
She lied, MM debunked it.
Despite the debunking, Gregory _repeated_ the lie. MM debunked it again.
You people are retards.
So, Coulter makes a flippant remark and you guys scream "liar", yet when Bill Maher or Jon Stewart makes a flippant remark with equal disregard for the exact truth, it's OK?
She's a commentator, for god's sake.
To hold her up to an exacting standard of fact and then call her a liar like a bunch of elementary school rejects while ignoring similar comments in other commentators is....retarded. And way biased.
There is *nothing* to debunk. God damn, you people take yourselves way too seriously.
You miss the point of the article. He repeated a claim made by Coulter without questioning the validity of it. Repeat a lie often enough and it "becomes" true. As a journalist he shouldn't do that.
Nothing Coulter says is a "flippant remark." Everything she says is calculated and usually a lie.
Interesting - she was scheduled to be a guest with Thom Hartmann and was a no-show.
He repeated the claim to see if it had traction. That's his job. He wasn't endorsing nor minimizing it's truthfulness.
David Gregory is known to be that type of guy. He is very "in your face" with questions at White House briefings.
Coulter is a bomb-throwing commentator. Period. You can't seriously "debunk" her just as you can't with Maher, Carlin, or any other sarcastic wit.
Back to Maher: He's said some pretty inflammatory things against conservatives and Bush. Do you see me frothing at the mouth or posting right-wing blog debunkings? No, and you won't. Because I respect a sense of humor even if I don't agree with the message.
No one, Suze, takes these folks seriously except the thin-skinned.
Did you actually WATCH the Maher comments they're talking about? He was talking about the bomb that went off near Cheney. He suggested that if it had hit Cheney, maybe fewer American soldiers would die. BIG DIFFERENCE! And he apologized immediately for the joke. Not quite the same thing as Coutler frequently and consistently calling for the deaths of Americans she disagrees with.
Oh, c'mon. This is just ridiculous. It's obvious that you're just reading the spoon fed Coulter comments that MM or whatever feeds you and not the whole comment.
As to Maher, if I was as thin-skinned and anti-debate as you I'm sure I would find comments to be upset about.
But I'm not.
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