Thursday, June 28, 2007

Great SCOTUS Ruling

Supreme Court strikes down voluntary integration in Seattle and Louisville public schools.

http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/2007/06/court_strikes_d_1.html

Justice Roberts puts it the right way:

"The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race," Roberts wrote. On the two school plans, the majority found that the districts have "failed to provide the necessary support for the proposition that there is no other way than individual racial classifications to avoid racial isolation in their school districts."

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes, a great day in Washington DC and all due to our Conservative friends:

- Headline: Supreme Kangaroo Court strikes down racial integration! Yippee, segregation is back and the conservatives in the South can get back to discrimination against Black people.

- Headline: Senate fails on immigration bill! Yippee, conservatives can continue their racist hatred and bigotry against Hispanic folks.

Gonzo said...

Hunter, before you reflexively criticise the SCOTUS ruling, look into the timeline of what has happened the last 10 years in Seattle. It had nothing to do with segregation; rather it was a ridiculous points system based on race mixed with school choice. Essentially, a Seattle student had his choice of school unless it changed the percentage of different racial groups that the School Board wanted.

So a white kid mught get to go to a particular school but not an equally qualified black or Asian kid because it might "threaten diversity". And vice-versa. Some families had siblings going to different schools because of this weirdness.

Also, voters in Washington passed an Initiative, I-200, some years ago that banned racial preferences.

So not only was what was going on strange, but probably illegal.

I think if you took the time to read up on this particular case you may retract your remark.

Gonzo said...

Oh, and as to the immigration bill...it was a sorry-ass bill that had very little public support.

As to my immigration opinion:

If we enforced the damn laws that are already on the books, and increased labor visas and made them easier to get we'd be better off and all sides better served.

It's not a discrimination issue for most, although I could name conservatives and liberals who look at hispanics with disdain. I ain't one of them or I'd have to divorce my naturalized wife.

It's a legality issue. "Undocumented" workers are here illegally. That's wrong in a society of laws. We should either enforce or change those laws.

SeattleSusieQ said...

Why am I not surprised that Gonzo thinks this is a good ruling?

This was a *voluntary* system that tried to make a finite number of slots in any given school a little more diverse by using race as the LAST deciding factor. That's hardly using "racial preferences" the way you want to make it look.

One white kid didn't get his first choice in schools. Boo-hoo.

SeattleSusieQ said...

As for the immigration bill - we agree on something - maybe.

If we enforced the current laws, you say - I hope you're talking about slamming the employers who hire the illegals. I think if there were no jobs, the illegals wouldn't come. So we need to crack down on the employers, right? Put 'em out of business or in jail!

That's what you mean, right? Then we agree. ;-)

I heard a recording of a course that showed employers how to LEGALLY eliminate American-born candidates for jobs so companies can hire foreign-born (and get the requisite visas) and pay lower salaries. That troubles me a lot. I would guess it affects jobs in the high-tech industries most. Better watch out!

SeattleSusieQ said...

Oh and one more thing. Gonz said "That's wrong in a society of laws. We should either enforce or change those laws. "

That's rich considering you think the Dems are wasting time investigating things like wiretaps and other illegal activities that damage our Constitution and reverance for the rule of law. You call that "partisan". I call it saving our democracy.

Gonzo said...

School choice was voluntary but could be denied if it threatened "racial balance".

Not only did SCOTUS call it unconstitutional but it's in violation of I-200.

Justice Thomas explains it very eloquently in his opinion - you should read the whole paper between Breyer and Thomas at the SCOTUSblog.

The School Board cannot violate the law or the Constitution for good intentions.

Gonzo said...

Holy shit, Suze, we agree entirely on the immigration issue!

Bringing in highly skilled workers on H-1B visas and writing the justifications was my Dad's line of work.

Gonzo said...

"the Dems are wasting time investigating things like wiretaps and other illegal activities that damage our Constitution and reverance for the rule of law."

They are investigating primarily for political reasons. Don't fool yourself. If they knew about "illegal" activities there would not be subpoenas, there would be indictments.

If they find illegal activity, all power to 'em and let the indictments fly.

Garrett said...

Gonz, there isn't much point in indicting them if you don't have the votes in the Senate to convict. Until the evidence is absolutely compelling, to the point where the Republican Senators will break party discipline and do what their constituents tell them, it's an exercise in futility.

Gonzo said...

I suppose you're right, there, Garrett. But what's the "call it a day" point?

SeattleSusieQ said...

You keep saying it's all partisan, Gonzo.

The truth of the matter is that finally Congress is doing it's JOB to oversee and the only way to find out just how much (not even "if") damage to our Constitution has taken place.

Good God, it's a good thing we didn't have you and the current Republicans in Congress during Nixon or he would have goten away with everything.