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Apparently, even twelve-year-olds who speak out against the president are Fair Game.The CoS would be proud. :-(
Posted by: Garrett,
I agree that it's unseemly to attack a 12-year olds family but using the kid was misdirection on the part of the Dems.If the kid's family is already eligible for SCHIP, then Bush's veto (or signature) of the new SCHIP enhancement has zero effect on his family. But the Dems want to think otherwise...in effect, a lie of aomission.So - zero sum. The rabid right-wingers showed poor judgement while the Democrats tried to pull a fast one relying on a feart-rending ....um.... lie.
Sorry for all the typos.....damn new keyboard.
In researching this I came upon Mark Steyn's comments which I would agree with:The Democrats chose to outsource their airtime to a Seventh Grader. If a political party is desperate enough to send a boy to do a man’s job, then the boy is fair game. As it is, the Dems do enough cynical and opportunist hiding behind biography and identity, and it’s incredibly tedious. And anytime I send my seven-year-old out to argue policy you’re welcome to clobber him, too. The alternative is a world in which genuine debate is ended and, as happened with Master Frost, politics dwindles down to professional staffers writing scripts to be mouthed by Equity moppets……So executive vice-presidents’ families are now the new new poor? I support lower taxes for the Frosts, increased child credits for the Frosts, an end to the “death tax” and other encroachments on transgenerational wealth transfer, and even severe catastrophic medical-emergency aid of one form or other. But there is no reason to put more and more middle-class families on the government teat, and doing so is deeply corrosive of liberty.And, if the Democrats don’t like me saying that, next time put up someone in long pants to make your case.
Facts about this family:Rich kid – gave out address and phone number of the familyFacts: 1.The boy is on scholarship2.Sister attends another private school – because she has a brain injury3.They bought their “lavish” house 16 years ago for $55,000 at a time when the neighborhood was less than safe4.The couple earned $45-50,000 combined last year5.The state found them eligible to be in the program.Atrios notes that nobody went after nine-year-old Noah McCullough when Bush made him a poster boy for privatizing Social Security. Republican liars and hypocrites again.(I'm still on the road)
Suzie, those items may be true but what about these questions:If the house is now worth about $350K then shouldn't there be enough equity to secure several years of health insurance premiums at ~$700 a month?If the husband is so concerned with the welfare of his family why doesn't he work for an employer who provides health insurance or join a woodworkers union and get insurance that way?Think this through: Do you want to pay more taxes to secure healthcare for the truly needy or to support someone's selfish lifestyle choices? Both Garrett and I have had to make some agonizing lifestyle choices in the last few years for the good of our families because it was the right thing to do. And now I'm asked to support some doofus who won't make the same hard choices? Is that fair?
Of course in your "vast" reading you haven't seen that they TRIED to get health insurance but were turned down 3 times because of "pre-existing" conditions. I'm looking for another article that describes the truth of every accusation made by the reich-wing on this issue.How do you justify publishing this family's address and phone number so they can be harrassed by the stooges that believe everything reich-wing radio and TV say? How do you compare this (and you ignored it the first time) to the Bush using a child when he was trying to sell his private retirement fiasco? Where was the complaint about "long pants" then? Hypocrite."Lie of omission"? Because the costs were going up, what Bush wanted would have CUT people out of the system who were already in.Hypocritical bastards on the right make me sick.
Dems the facts deal with it? You MUST be talking to yourself, because you're the one that doesn't have the facts. You have GOT to move on from your reich-wing infotainment.
Suzie, I have not commented on the 9 year old trotted out to sell SS privatization because I haven't had time to look into it. Overall, though, I don't like to see kids reading scripts on complex political issues.I also think publishing the address and phone number is questionable, I'll agree with you on that.As to "dems da facts", again, Suzie, I linked to record sites, not opinion sites so they *are* the facts. Jeez, louise! FACTS.And you keep throwing more stuff out like pre-existing conditions. Anyone can get health insurance - I just got it with an incurable pre-existing condition - it may require going HMO for a year. But what mitigates my core question? Forget the right vs. left aspects and reply logically:If the mother works a mid-level job then it's not unreasonable to assume about $30K salary for her. So the husband only makes $15-20K woodworking?WTF? Isn't he expected to do whatever it takes to provide for his family? I just cannot imagine letting my kids become - effectively - healthcare wards of the state - because I was unwilling to do whatever it takes to make sure they had what they needed.This is utterly ridiculous and you can keep throwing out "yeah, buts" all you want but that family is being irresponsible towards the needs of their kids. There's no other way to read it.Oh, another point. Apparently, the mothers father is retired and well-off. Shouldn't he help?I go back to what I have been trying to get through to you - shouldn't government help go to those who have no recourse and need our help? This family clearly has options and I don't believe in subsidizing those who can help themselves.
Oh, good news for Mr. Frost. I just ran a search for jobs that fit his skills and there are many, many in the Baltimore area.One less sucking on the governments tit!
OK, I looked into Noah McCullough.Weird.Apparently, this is some prodigy kid who is a published author on Presidents who's also an uber-conservative.(Shaking head)Now, you weren't entirely honest about no one going after him. Do I need to post links to all of the leftie sites I have found that threaten him with physical violence? I will if you doubt me.
Anticipating deafening silence, I post the links I mentioned:http://dadahead.blogspot.com/2005/03/i-challenge-noah-mccullough-to-fight.htmlComment on DU:Good, that little bastard can enlist for Syrian clean-up duty in only 9 more years. Unless someone beats him to death on the playground (highly likely) Fucking little piglet. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2411688#2411709Want more?
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